G. Nazarian’s View of an Islamic Government

Fifty-year-old G. Nazarian was born and grew up in Tehran, Iran. He has a wife and two daughters. He worked as a general manager for an export-import company for twelve years until he decided to come to America in 1992 and raise his family there for his children to have better success in life. In America, he started off as a taxi driver and went to the University of Phoenix for four years and got a Bachelor’s Degree as an accountant, which is his current profession. During his childhood and part of his adult life, Gorgen Nazarian lived under the Islamic Rule and shares his experiences of this repressive government with us today. “I recall those times when I lived there…,” he says, “I am a happier person now living in America, with many more freedoms.”

Iran’s new Islamic government changed a lot of my rights, but didn’t bring any new rights. If the right is about me, as an Armenian Christian, a small ethnic group in Iran, we had a lot of rights taken away from us. The most important is that the time Islam came and changed Iran’s regime to an Islamic Republic, the first right we Armenian people got taken away was that they didn’t let us teach Armenian in our Armenian schools, telling us Armenian is not allowed to be taught. That’s why the Armenians got really disappointed and started to protest in some places, but couldn’t go any further. For that reason, Armenians decided to teach their children Armenian out of school hours.

When Khomeini, the leader of the revolution, returned to Iran, he gave the people very good promises, promising good lives and a good economy as long as Iran was a very rich country. He said Iran would have a democracy, and all other religious groups would have their freedom. Everything would be better than it was in the king’s time. But he didn’t keep his promise.

When the Islamic rule was brought to Iran, one of Islam’s important roles was that men and women weren’t allowed to communicate with each other outside until they marry. One time when me and your mother went together to dinner, when we were coming out of the restaurant, one of those Islamic soldiers came up to us and asked us why we were together. We said that we were married but they didn’t believe us. One of these soldiers took me to one side and your mom to another. And they had asked your mother what her brother’s name was. Your mom had said Shahen. And they came up to me and asked me what my wife’s brother’s name was. I said it was Shahen. That’s how they knew we knew each other and were saying the truth and they let us go. They didn’t bother us any more. 

I see a big difference between the old president and the new elected one. Even though the former president we had was a religious man, he was educated, familiar with the world around him and tried to keep and follow the laws of Islam. But he also understood what the world wanted and where it was going. He was able to link with the world, but this new president that has been elected is not a Mullah. He is very religious; a fundamentalist whose goal is to make everything like it was during the first days of the revolution.

Also, women’s rights are different from men’s. According to Islamic rules, women are half of what men are worth. This means that women have no rights. They are completely out of having a normal life. Women are supposed to marry, go to her husband’s house, and do work, have kids, cook meals, and prepare food. A man can marry more than one woman. Under Islamic rule, every man could have how many wives he wants, but he has to register; go to the government and marry. On the other hand, a woman can’t have more than one man. If the wife causes any one problem, like hating his husband, she doesn’t have the right to go to court and say she wants to divorce. Women have no fair justice.

Iran has oil and is one of the world’s richest countries. But the people live under very extreme conditions; there is inflation. People these days have a hard time in the economy. Everything in the black market is expensive. Last month, it was said in the news that most of the medicines in the black market are fake. This means that these medicine jars used in hospitals that are thrown away are collected by black marketers and filled with water or other liquids and packaged in a way that you think it’s the right medicine. And these medicines are sold to the poor people who don’t know what’s contained in them. My uncle in Tehran had blood cancer, and the doctors had told him he needed a particular kind of medicine to cure him. This medicine couldn’t be found in the pharmacy but needed to be bought from the black market, where it was ten times more expensive.

Security in Iran is not like security here in America. You know, there is security to some limit. The people don’t have a gun in their hands, you know, because the police doesn’t contribute in “securing.” After the revolution, the Islamic soldiers started working as police, because they didn’t trust the king’s police. That’s why police and Islamic soldiers became one. These “Islamic police” don’t protect the people the way they are supposed to. First of all, the police work for themselves rather than the government, for their personal financial lives, trying for themselves, and then writing tickets for the government. The people’s security is put last, and most of time it never gets there. Police have to care, but in reality, they don’t. The government doesn’t approach everything seriously. You have to secure yourself. The police don’t overall work that well. All they care about is securing the Islamic regime.

Votes during elections are cheated; these things are always done. Like I said, the majority of the Iranian people are very uneducated and very religious, too. They believe these things. Even if the majority of the vote is for someone good, and the organization says this man isn’t good, being afraid that he can ruin the system, the votes for this man aren’t counted. It is said he got a low number of votes. Basically, they chose who they want, the one who is religious and will work for the government, not the people.

They don’t treat the kids well in the Iranian schools. Especially in elementary or junior high schools; the teachers do whatever they want. They can abuse the kids, and there is no one to confront them and ask them why they do such a thing. This is normal for me, because I attended an Armenian school, which aren’t different from Persian schools. Even though teachers in Armenian schools are also uneducated, they don’t teach on the level they are supposed to. I remember one time Joseph, my younger brother, went to school the first day, and didn’t know what to do in class. He had talked and the teacher had hit his head with a key and holed his head, with blood coming out. He had escaped the class and didn’t want to come back.

I think unemployment in Iran is a lot, but the reason isn’t only that the people aren’t educated, but more that the government can’t make jobs for them all, you know. When unemployment is a lot in a country, the government has to create jobs, meaning, it needs to let the people make jobs for themselves. The government needs to give the people what they need, you know, so the people can work with them. The government itself can’t do this.

After the revolution, in the beginning Iran’s southwest neighbor Iraq saw that Iran was changing governments and its army was very weak. It took advantage and decided to attack Iran to conquer it. Eight years, from 1980 to 1988, Iraq had a war with Iran. The fights didn’t affect the government that much as it did to the people. The people were under pressure, and it was a chance for the government to tell its people to put its complaints aside and join the government in fighting against the enemy. It was good for the government because it did whatever it wanted. It tried to tell the people it’s a big fight and Iran is under great danger, that the enemy has attacked, let’s join and go against them. The actual fighting didn’t affect us that much; it was on the borderline between Iran and Iraq. The only things bothering us were the bombardments to Tehran and we might be in danger, resulting in leaving our home to neighboring towns for about fifteen days. Kids didn’t go to school, you know, you were worried, and scared. When we were sleeping there might be another bombardment. I remember one time when we were home they shot a missile and the building on the other side of our street collapsed; whoever was in there died. That was a danger to us, a situation that affected one’s behavior and spirit. It was bad days.

Besides my life, everyone’s life got affected when changes happened. When you lived during the time of the king most things were free to do, even though there was not that much political freedom. You could go out with friends, to movies, disco, parties, gatherings, music, and dancing. But during the changing of the regime, the time when the king was kicked off the throne, there was danger. No one knew what might happen on the street; firing or killings. That’s why they say revolution isn’t a good thing for a country.

Interviewed by Serli Nazarian